Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Mastery with Tom Daly: Transforming Newbies into Business Leaders – E80

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Mastery with Tom Daly: Transforming Newbies into Business Leaders – E80

Join hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey on “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” for another enriching episode, this time featuring the insightful Tom Daly from Focus Insights Group. Building on the momentum of our previous conversation in the last episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, Tom delves deeper into the world of sales, sharing his expertise on nurturing new talent and guiding companies to refine their sales strategies for sustained success. Whether you’re a fledgling salesperson or a seasoned executive, Tom’s advice is bound to enlighten and inspire.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Transitioning from Pitch Person to Business Leader: Tom offers invaluable advice for new sales professionals on evolving from knowing just the features and benefits of their products to becoming strategic business advisors to their clients.
  2. The Importance of a Structured Onboarding Program: Emphasizing the critical role of a meticulously planned onboarding process to ensure new salespeople are set up for success from day one.
  3. Role of Sales Management in Nurturing New Talent: Discussion on how sales managers should not just be top sales producers but mentors who demonstrate, guide, and provide constructive feedback to their teams.
  4. Building a Sales Strategy: Tom underlines the necessity for sales managers to have a clear, actionable sales strategy aligned with the company’s business plan to drive success.
  5. Sales as a Business Management Function: Reinforcing the concept that effective sales management is synonymous with astute business management, focusing on strategic planning and execution.

Key Quotes

Tom Daley:

“You have to demonstrate. Then you have to do it. Then you have to have somebody try it, then you have to critique them and then you have to show them again and rinse and repeat.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“I really try to teach my salespeople to think like a business person. It helps them a lot when they start to negotiate because now we can negotiate like a business person as opposed to a salesperson that wants a commission check.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Practice makes easy, not practice makes perfect. Practice makes easy because, man, I love your phrase. It’s an unnatural human behavior to start cold calling.”

Additional Resources

  • Sales Xceleration: Tom’s brand and passion, offering sales optimization services. – www.salesxceleration.com
  • Focus Insights Group, LLC: Learn more about Tom’s consultancy, which helps clients achieve their best sales year. – Focus Insights Group, LLC

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” with Tom Daly has been a deep dive into the art and science of building a successful sales career and managing a sales team effectively. Tom’s seasoned perspective sheds light on transitioning from being a pitch-focused salesperson to a strategic business advisor, offering actionable strategies for salespeople at every career stage. With a focus on the importance of structured onboarding, the critical role of sales management, and the development of a solid sales strategy, this conversation is a treasure trove for anyone looking to elevate their sales game.

If you’re a new salesperson looking to make your mark, a sales manager aiming to nurture your team, or a CEO striving for sales excellence, this episode is packed with wisdom you won’t want to miss. Download now and start transforming your sales approach today.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Scoring Big in Sales: Lessons from March Madness – E79

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Scoring Big in Sales: Lessons from March Madness – E79

In this sports-oriented episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey dive into the fascinating parallels between March Madness NCAA basketball tournaments and sales strategies. Kevin and Sean take this opportunity to explore how the tournament’s structure and the season leading up to it offer valuable lessons for developing winning sales strategies.

Key Topics Discussed:

  1. Preseason Preparation and Regular Season: The significance of constant improvement and team synergy throughout the sales season to refine strategies, similar to a basketball team’s journey to the NCAA tournament.
  2. Tournament Strategy and Sales Planning: Drawing analogies from the NCAA’s regional competitions and seed rankings to sales approaches, market positioning, and competitive analysis.
  3. Winning the Customer Relationship: Identifying the final sales deal as the ‘national championship game,’ focusing on strategic planning and execution to win customer trust and secure business.
  4. Overcoming Adversity and Learning from Losses: The importance of analyzing lost sales opportunities (akin to unexpected tournament upsets) to understand and improve future sales tactics.
  5. Sales Team Dynamics and Individual Growth: Encouraging personal development and adapting roles within the sales team for optimal performance, paralleled with a basketball team’s adjustment to injuries and game dynamics.

Key Quotes:

  • “The trophy in sales is the customer relationship.” – Kevin Lawson
  • “Only one team ends the season with a victory; similarly, in sales, there’s only one winner.” – Sean O’Shaughnessey
  • “It’s important to win through better execution of the plan… and hard work.” – Sean O’Shaughnessey
  • “We’ve got to figure out our place in the market… It’s the same progression in business.” – Kevin Lawson

Additional Resources:

MEDDPICCC for sales strategy and the importance of opportunity qualification – https://youtu.be/RBcGmyeBp1I?si=gaGL1CWYbEKxFbVr

Summary:

This episode is a masterclass for sales professionals and leaders looking to elevate their game by drawing inspiration from March Madness’s structure, strategy, and spirit. Kevin and Sean’s dialogue reminds us of the importance of preparation, strategy, resilience, and continuous learning in the quest to win in sales. As the NCAA tournament captivates basketball fans, let it also inspire sales teams to strive for excellence, adapt to challenges, and ultimately clinch their championship trophy: a successful and lasting customer relationship

Keep Your Client’s Outcomes in Mind When Creating Decision Timelines

Keep Your Client’s Outcomes in Mind When Creating Decision Timelines

I regularly talk to my clients who have long and complicated sales processes regarding the need to adopt a Decision Timeline. These are known by many different names, but regardless of name, they are a list of action items that both companies need to check off either independently or mutually. This allows both the selling and buying teams to have a project plan to arrive at a decision to move forward with a financial transaction in return for the product or service.

When a selling team first does a Decision Timeline, it is not unusual for it to be very similar to a Close Plan, but the goal is to have mutually agreed-upon outcomes. My friends at Sales Assembly put out a great video to drive home the correct behavior, and it is worth every salesperson’s time to review it.

I talk about Decision Timelines much more in my book, Eliminate Your Competition, and in my blog supporting that book, The Trapper.

You can purchase my book wherever books are sold such as Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and Books A Million. It is available in e-book formats for Nook, Kindle, and iPad.
https://salesassembly.hubs.vidyard.com/watch/HqZPfziKhgx7FrKJNS35oi?
Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Building Trust and Credibility in Sales: A Conversation with Tom Daly – E78

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Building Trust and Credibility in Sales: A Conversation with Tom Daly – E78

Dive into the sales world with “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey engage candidly with Tom Daly from Focus Insights Group. This episode, rich with insights and anecdotes, peels back the layers of what makes or breaks sales strategies, highlighting the crucial elements of successful sales encounters. Join us as Tom shares his wealth of experience, offering invaluable advice to sales novices and veterans alike on how to excel in the sales domain.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Journey from Sales Novice to Expert: Tom reflects on the early, often challenging days of sales, underscoring the importance of mentorship and learning.
  2. Aligning Sales with Business Goals: How to ensure that sales strategies are effective and align with broader business objectives.
  3. The Role of a Salesperson as a Business Advisor: Moving beyond the traditional sales role to become an indispensable client partner.
  4. Building Trust and Credibility in Sales: Strategies for salespeople to become trusted advisors, leading to long-term client relationships and referrals.
  5. The Importance of Process and Structure in Sales: Tom emphasizes the need for a disciplined approach to sales, akin to accounting, for scalability and predictability.
  6. Advice for CEOs on Sales Process Management: Insights on how CEOs can foster a more structured and effective sales process within their organizations.

Key Quotes

Tom Daly:

“The professionals that are awesome at sales, they just simply like helping. And they like helping people in a critical way where they can’t help themselves.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Sales is about transferring trust… It’s easier to transfer trust when it’s your company. It’s harder when you’re a salesperson.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Understanding your market and understanding your value proposition is really important. When you marry those together… you become that trusted advisor.”

Additional Resources

  • Sales Xceleration: Tom’s brand and passion, offering sales optimization services. – www.salesxceleration.com
  • Focus Insights Group, LLC: Learn more about Tom’s consultancy, aiding clients to achieve their best sales year. – Focus Insights Group, LLC

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” delves into the essence of successful selling, from the foundational days of learning the ropes to mastering the art of becoming a business advisor rather than just a salesperson. Tom Daly, with his extensive experience and passion for sales, shares practical advice on how salespeople can truly make a difference by focusing on their clients’ needs and dreams. Whether you’re a budding salesperson looking to improve your skills or a CEO striving for sales excellence within your organization, this conversation offers a trove of insights and strategies to help you achieve your goals.

Tune in to this episode for a compelling dive into effective sales practices with Tom Daley, and discover how to transform your sales approach from transactional to transformational.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Carving Success: Chris Spanier on Sales-Marketing Synergy – E77

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Carving Success: Chris Spanier on Sales-Marketing Synergy – E77

In this insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey continue their conversation with Chris Spanier, a seasoned marketing expert and the founder of Carpe Diem Consulting Group. Building on the momentum from last week’s discussion on storytelling and marketing alignment, Chris delves deeper into strategies for small businesses aiming to enhance their sales and marketing focus without the luxury of a large budget. Tune in to discover actionable advice for fostering a productive partnership between sales and marketing teams and driving company growth.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Budget Discipline Across Business Sizes: Chris emphasizes the importance of budget discipline, whether in a small business or a corporate setting, and the need for strategic alignment between sales and marketing.
  2. Building Sales and Marketing Synergy: Insight into initiating fruitful conversations between sales and marketing to identify common goals, target audiences, and strategies for mutual success.
  3. Tactics for Limited Budgets: Practical approaches for small businesses to test marketing strategies efficiently and affordably, including rapid iteration and leveraging insights for improvement.
  4. The Importance of Sales and Marketing Collaboration: Chris discusses the transformative impact of sales and marketing working in harmony, sharing a real-life example of this partnership leading to significant business success.
  5. Advice for CEOs on Differentiating Sales and Marketing: Tips for company leaders to understand the distinct roles of sales and marketing, fostering a collaborative rather than hierarchical relationship.

Key Quotes

Chris Spanier:

“When sales and marketing start talking together, and they start planning and supporting each other, then suddenly, it’s like, you’re not the enemy. You’re actually an incredible asset and an ally.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Marketing and sales are partners in this journey of customer acquisition and revenue growth, not a hand-off relationship.”

Kevin Lawson:

“What do you wish we as salespeople would ask you first before we say, how are you getting us more leads?”

Additional Resources

  • Carpe Diem Consulting Group: Chris Spanier’s marketing consultancy bridges small to medium-sized businesses seeking to establish or enhance their marketing efforts. – https://www.carpediemconsultinggroup.com/

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is essential listening for small business owners, sales leaders, and marketing professionals striving for growth in a competitive marketplace. Chris Spanier shares invaluable insights on making the most of limited budgets, the critical importance of sales and marketing collaboration, and strategic approaches to achieving company-wide success. Through real-life examples and practical advice, Chris, Kevin, and Sean illuminate a path forward for businesses looking to cultivate a powerful synergy between sales and marketing. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from a marketing expert dedicated to helping companies seize the day and achieve their goals.

Ready to transform your sales and marketing strategy? Download this episode now for expert guidance on driving profitability and growth in your business.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Uniting Sales and Marketing: A Masterclass with Chris Spanier – E76

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Uniting Sales and Marketing: A Masterclass with Chris Spanier – E76

In this enlightening episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey welcome Chris Spanier, a marketing maven with deep expertise in fostering collaboration between sales and marketing teams. Chris shares his insights on building synergy around B2B sales cycles and how to effectively align sales and marketing efforts for maximum impact. Join us as we delve into the dynamics of this crucial partnership and uncover strategies for achieving mutual success.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Bridging the Gap Between Sales and Marketing: Chris emphasizes the importance of sales and marketing teams working in harmony, rather than at odds, to capitalize on every opportunity.
  2. The Power of Collaboration: Insights into how open communication and shared goals can transform sales and marketing teams into formidable allies.
  3. Storytelling as a Sales and Marketing Tool: The discussion highlights how compelling narratives can engage prospects and reflect their needs, ultimately driving success.
  4. Feedback Loops and Iterative Improvement: Chris advocates for continuous dialogue between sales and marketing to refine strategies and better serve customers.
  5. The Role of Leadership in Fostering Unity: Exploring how leadership can motivate sales and marketing teams to work together through shared incentives and aligned objectives.

Key Quotes

Chris Spanier:

“It’s just so powerful when you have sales and marketing coming alongside together and working together. It’s just great.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Marketing and sales are partners. One is not the customer of the other; they’re partners in this journey of customer acquisition.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Can you dig in, get a handhold on how storytelling has a major role in how we go to market, whether you have an internal or external [marketing department]?”

Additional Resources

  • The Story Brand by Donald Miller: Recommended reading for understanding the impact of storytelling in marketing and sales. – https://a.co/d/j7bFMOx
  • Simon Sinek’s “Find Your Why”: A guide to discovering the purpose that drives you and your business. – https://a.co/d/8vJWo7O

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is a must-listen for anyone involved in the intricate dance between sales and marketing. Chris Spanier sheds light on the significance of unity and collaboration for achieving common business goals. Through a blend of personal anecdotes and actionable advice, Chris, Kevin, and Sean explore how storytelling, shared objectives, and regular feedback can transform the relationship between sales and marketing into a dynamic partnership. Whether you’re a sales manager, marketing director, or CEO, this conversation offers valuable insights on aligning your teams for success.

Tune in to discover how you can leverage the combined strengths of your sales and marketing teams to drive growth and create meaningful customer relationships. Download this episode now and start building a more cohesive, effective approach to your business strategy.

Crafting a Sales Process Flowchart: Visualize the stages in your sales process for consistency – Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses – Episode 9

Crafting a Sales Process Flowchart: Visualize the stages in your sales process for consistency – Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses – Episode 9

Welcome to “Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses,” the essential podcast for B2B sales professionals, managers, and CEOs of companies aiming for revenue growth. In today’s episode, we’re diving into the core of any thriving sales organization: the Sales Process Flowchart. Guided by Sean O’Shaughnessey, a veteran in sales strategy, we’ll explore how to craft and refine your sales process for peak efficiency and effectiveness.

Our esteemed sponsor, Kevin Lawson of Lighthouse Sales Advisors and Sales Xceleration, is our sponsor for this episode. Kevin offers unparalleled sales leadership solutions for small businesses, focusing on navigating sales growth challenges and scaling up operations through his extensive experience. Kevin’s fractional consultancy is the answer for those looking for expert guidance in sales team development without the commitment of a full-time executive.

Contact Kevin:
Email: Kevin@lighthousesalesadvisors.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kwlawson

Key Topics Discussed

  • Blueprint of Success: Discover the importance of having a well-defined Sales Process Flowchart as your guide through the sales journey.
  • Stages of the Sales Process: Sean breaks down each stage of the sales process, from prospecting to nurturing long-term relationships.
  • Customizing Your Sales Approach: Learn the significance of tailoring your sales process to fit your unique business model and industry requirements.
  • Visualizing the Sales Funnel: An exploration of how visualizing your sales funnel can identify potential leaks and optimize the sales journey.
  • Leveraging Technology: Insight into how automation tools and CRM systems can enhance your sales process and free up your team to focus on selling.
  • The Dynamic Nature of Sales Processes: Emphasizing the importance of continuous feedback and adaptation to keep your sales process relevant and effective.

Key Quotes

  • “Success doesn’t come from random acts of effort. It requires a blueprint, a master plan that orchestrates every step of the sales journey.”
  • “Imagine your Sales Process Flowchart as the architectural plan for a skyscraper. Without it, you’re merely stacking bricks without knowing how high they should go.”
  • “Technology is the wind beneath our sales team’s wings, freeing them up to do what they do best—sell.”

Additional Resources

  • Sales Management Association Study: Highlights the performance impact of using a formal sales process.
  • Harvard Business Review Study: Shows a significant revenue increase for businesses with a standardized sales process.

Action Items You Can Do Today

  • Develop a Visual Sales Process Flowchart: Start with a simple outline and refine it to suit your team’s needs.
  • Solicit Feedback from Your Sales Team: Use their frontline insights to improve your sales process.
  • Customize Your Approach: Ensure your sales stages align with your business model for increased efficiency.
  • Invest in Training and Technology: Equip your team with the necessary knowledge and tools to excel.
  • Embrace Continuous Improvement: Regularly update your sales process based on feedback and changing market conditions.

Today’s episode with Sean O’Shaughnessey has armed you with the knowledge to construct a Sales Process Flowchart that is the backbone of a successful sales strategy. Implementing the discussed actionable strategies will refine your sales process, making it a powerful engine for business growth. Stay tuned for more insightful episodes to further empower your journey to becoming a sales powerhouse.

Contact Information

  • Sean O’Shaughnessey: Email – Sean@NewSales.Expert

For more expert advice on transforming your sales strategies, don’t forget to subscribe to “Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses.” Join us next time for another deep dive into the strategies that can elevate your sales game. Until then, keep selling smart and forging meaningful connections with your customers.