Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – From Stories to Sales: Leveraging Narrative Power with Jeff Clair – E75

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – From Stories to Sales: Leveraging Narrative Power with Jeff Clair – E75

Join hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey on “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” for a captivating conversation with special guest Jeff Clair, a fractional VP of sales and the brain behind ClairVoyant Consulting LLC. In this episode, Jeff shares his invaluable insights on the power of storytelling in sales, offering practical tips for salespeople to engage and connect with their prospects effectively. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or new to the field, this discussion is packed with advice to elevate your sales approach through compelling storytelling.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Art of Storytelling in Sales: Jeff emphasizes the importance of storytelling as a memorable and impactful way to communicate with prospects.
  2. Remembering and Crafting Stories: Insights into how salespeople can remember and craft stories that resonate with their audience, making the prospect the story’s hero.
  3. The Role of Salespeople as Guides: Drawing parallels from popular movies, Jeff illustrates how salespeople should position themselves as guides in their storytelling, akin to characters like Yoda in “Star Wars.”
  4. Practicing Storytelling: The significance of practicing storytelling within sales teams, including role-playing exercises to refine this skill.
  5. Connecting Stories to the Buyer’s Journey: Jeff connects the dots on how storytelling fits into the buyer’s journey, providing a framework for new and seasoned sales professionals to enhance their sales strategies.
  6. Role-Playing and Feedback: An exploration of effective training techniques, including role-playing, to help salespeople become more engaging and confident storytellers.

Key Quotes

Jeff Clair:

“People tend not to remember the facts, but they remember stories…great storytellers infuse different senses, which is really great.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Practice makes easy. Not practice makes perfect…there’s always room for improvement.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Practice allows you to figure out how to do it better…those people in small organizations tend not to practice enough.”

Additional Resources

  • The Story Brand by Donald Miller: Recommended reading for salespeople and marketing professionals to master the art of storytelling in business.

Summary

This insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” dives deep into the transformative role of storytelling in the sales process. With his rich experience in sales leadership, Jeff Clair shares why stories captivate, how to craft them effectively, and the importance of salespeople seeing themselves as guides for their prospects. Through role-playing and practice, Jeff underscores the significance of confidence and personalization in storytelling, ensuring that each story resonates deeply with the intended audience. This discussion is a must-listen for anyone looking to harness the power of storytelling to not just sell but to connect and inspire action.

Elevate your sales game with the art of storytelling. Download this episode now and transform how you engage with your prospects.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Navigating the Sales Process: Insights from Jeff Clair of ClairVoyant Consulting – E74

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Navigating the Sales Process: Insights from Jeff Clair of ClairVoyant Consulting – E74

Dive into the world of sales excellence with “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” as hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey welcome Jeff Clair from ClairVoyant Consulting LLC. In this compelling episode, Jeff, a seasoned fractional VP of Sales, shares his East Coast insights into overcoming common sales challenges, utilizing innovative strategies, and enhancing the sales process. Join us as we explore the nuances of sales from different regional perspectives, offering valuable advice for sales professionals across the spectrum.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Importance of a Defined Sales Process: Jeff emphasizes the critical role of having a structured sales process and how the lack of one can lead to salespeople ‘winging it.’
  2. Utilizing CRM for Sales Success: The discussion highlights how CRM tools can delineate sales stages, aiding salespeople in navigating from lead generation to closing.
  3. Referral Strategies: The panel delves into the potential of referrals in sales and why many salespeople hesitate to ask for them, missing out on valuable opportunities.
  4. Closing Techniques and Challenges: Jeff shares insights into salespeople’s common hurdles when closing deals and the strategic importance of asking the right questions.
  5. The Power of Storytelling in Sales: Jeff advocates for storytelling as a technique to connect with prospects, positioning them as the ‘hero’ of their journey with your product or service.
  6. Guidance over Selling: The notion that successful salespeople guide rather than sell to their prospects, encouraging sales teams to adopt a consultative approach.

Key Quotes

Jeff Clair:

“Nobody really sells people anything…successful salespeople identify needs, desires, wants, and then satisfies those needs, desires, or wants with the product that they have.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Facts tell and stories sell…we’re going to unpack how stories sell in our next episode.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“A salesperson is a guide…they are experts in selling their product. The prospect probably is not an expert in buying that thing.”

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is a treasure trove for anyone looking to sharpen their sales skills. With Jeff Clair’s expertise, the discussion sheds light on critical aspects of the sales process, from the initial lead generation to the final close. By addressing salespeople’s common pitfalls and offering strategies to overcome them, Jeff, Kevin, and Sean provide listeners with actionable advice to elevate their sales game. Whether you’re a seasoned VP of Sales or a sales professional looking to improve your approach, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your sales strategy and lead to greater success. Tune in to learn how to navigate the sales process confidently, leverage your CRM effectively, and harness the power of storytelling to connect with your prospects on a deeper level.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Building Robust Sales Pipelines: Expert Insights for CEOs, Managers, and Sales Professionals – E73

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Building Robust Sales Pipelines: Expert Insights for CEOs, Managers, and Sales Professionals – E73

In this enlightening episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey delve into the perennial challenges sales professionals face: the need for more leads and adding value to existing leads. They share their expert insights on building robust sales pipelines, identifying ideal customer profiles, and effective strategies for increasing sales efficiency. Whether you’re a CEO, sales manager, or a salesperson, this episode offers valuable guidance to enhance your sales performance.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Building a More Robust Pipeline: Strategies to improve pipeline quality for sustained income generation.
  2. Ideal Customer Profiling: Understanding the difference between short-term accessible prospects and long-term ideal customers.
  3. Resource Management: Tackling the universal challenge of limited resources in sales organizations.
  4. Prospecting Techniques: The importance of referrals, networking, and leveraging platforms like LinkedIn.
  5. Prioritizing Sales Efforts: Focusing on the probability of closing deals rather than just deal size or closing dates.
  6. Consistency in Sales Activities: How regular, focused efforts in different stages of sales lead to better results.

Key Quotes

Kevin Lawson:

“We actually encourage them to manage their deals and their communication priorities by the probability of closing… When all these things come together, it’s insane how fast your pipeline will grow and how fast deals will close.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“You have to be stingy. You have to choose where to invest appropriately, and you have to constantly invest… Every quarter, every month, every week, every day, you need to set aside time that you are investing in your business.”

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is a goldmine for anyone looking to enhance their sales process. Kevin and Sean offer a deep dive into the nuances of building a strong sales pipeline, effectively utilizing resources, and the art of prioritizing prospects. Their conversation is not just theoretical; it’s filled with practical, actionable advice that can be implemented immediately. This episode is a must-listen if you’re seeking to transform your sales approach, be it as a CEO, a sales manager, or a frontline salesperson. Tune in to discover how you can revolutionize your sales strategy and achieve remarkable results.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Cultivating Multi-Threaded Relationships in Sales – E72

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Cultivating Multi-Threaded Relationships in Sales – E72

Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” with hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey. In this episode, we delve into the nuances of building a robust sales pipeline, focusing on creating a team of buyers rather than sellers. This discussion is crucial for sales leaders, managers, and salespeople across various industries, whether involved in enterprise sales, repetitive sales, consumable sales, or professional services.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Building Multi-Threaded Relationships: The importance of establishing connections with multiple decision-makers and influencers in the client’s organization.
  2. Strategies for New Salespeople: Tactics for entering new territories and identifying potential clients.
  3. The Role of Sales Leaders: How sales managers can support their team in expanding their client base and building a more robust sales pipeline.
  4. Understanding the Buying Committee: Navigating through the dynamics of group decision-making in sales.
  5. Effective Pipeline Management: Strategies for maintaining and enriching the sales pipeline throughout the year.
  6. The Power of Referrals and Trust: Leveraging trust and referrals to enhance sales effectiveness.

Key Quotes

  • Kevin: “It’s not about how complex our questions need to be to get crazy insightful answers… it’s really about doing the simple things well.”
  • Sean: “Don’t just focus on the VP or director… remember that every influencer in the organization will sway that top person.”

Additional Resources

  • RACI – https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/raci-chart/
  • MEDDPICCC sales methodology for identifying key decision-makers and influencers – http://newsales.expert/2023/10/unlocking-sales-potential-with-meddpiccc-a-comprehensive-guide/
  • The concept of the Power Matrix in sales – https://www.thetrapper.com/2021/11/18/welcome-to-the-power-matrix/

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide valuable insights into building a successful sales pipeline, emphasizing the importance of multi-threaded relationships and understanding the dynamics of the buying committee. They offer practical strategies for new and experienced sales professionals and guidance for sales leaders on supporting their teams. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their sales process and achieve better results in their sales endeavors. Join us next week for more on building quality relationships and effective pipeline management in sales.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Expanding Your Sales Horizon: Conquering New Territories in Consumable Sales – E71

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Expanding Your Sales Horizon: Conquering New Territories in Consumable Sales – E71

Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey delve into new territories’ challenges and strategies, especially in consumable sales. This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom for salespeople and leaders navigating the competitive landscape of selling products that are regularly consumed by customers. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or just starting in a new territory, this episode offers valuable insights into crafting successful sales strategies.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Strategies for New Salespeople in Established Territories: Understanding how to enter and grow in a territory with established competition.
  2. Importance of Being a Trusted Advisor: The role of salespeople in becoming integral to their customers’ operations and decision-making processes.
  3. Selling Beyond the Product: Emphasizing the value of the salesperson and the company in addition to the product itself.
  4. Differentiating in a Competitive Market: How to stand out when selling products that are similar to what competitors offer.
  5. Leveraging Non-Traditional ICPs (Ideal Client Profiles): Finding success by targeting non-traditional clients who may only purchase specific items from the sales line.
  6. Building and Sustaining Customer Relationships: Strategies for maintaining long-term customer relationships in consumable sales.

Key Quotes

  • Kevin: “You’ve got to give somebody enough reason to give us a try. Whether you’ve gone through Sandler, that ‘give us a try’ is a strategy or it’s a pricing strategy, product strategy, and where you play in the market.”
  • Sean: “You need to get that prospect, that company that isn’t buying from you today, to buy something from you. You need to start to develop that relationship. You earn the right to sell more to them.”

Additional Resources

  • Book: “Challenger Sale” – Recommended by Sean for understanding how to challenge and drive customer businesses – https://a.co/d/hOtMIGp.
  • Sandler Training – Mentioned by Kevin as a resource for sales strategies – https://www.sandler.com/.

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide a comprehensive guide on effectively breaking into new territories, especially in industries where products are consumed regularly. They emphasize the importance of being more than just a salesperson; being a trusted advisor and an integral part of the customer’s business. The discussion covers strategies for differentiating in a competitive market, leveraging non-traditional client profiles, and building sustainable customer relationships. This episode is a must-listen for sales professionals looking to expand their reach and deepen their impact in new territories. Join us next week for more insights on “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales.”

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – The Trusted Advisor: Excelling in Consumable Product Sales – E70

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – The Trusted Advisor: Excelling in Consumable Product Sales – E70

Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts, Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey, delve into the often-overlooked realm of consumable sales. In this episode, they explore strategies for making that initial sale and ensuring repeat business in a competitive market. Whether you’re selling paper, steel, lubricants, or any consumable product, this episode is packed with valuable insights for sales professionals at all levels.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Importance of Being a Trusted Advisor: Understanding the significance of building solid customer advisory relationships in consumable sales.
  2. Selling Beyond the Product: How to add value and differentiate yourself when selling widely available products that are similar across competitors.
  3. Strategies for New Territory Development: Tips for sales leaders and salespeople on effectively breaking into and growing new sales territories.
  4. Crafting a Unique Selling Proposition (USP): The necessity of developing a compelling USP, even for distributors of similar products.
  5. Role of Sales Managers and CEOs: The importance of leadership in providing tools and processes to support the sales team in delivering value.
  6. Maintaining Customer Satisfaction: Strategies for keeping customers engaged and ensuring repeat business in a competitive environment.

Key Quotes

  • Sean: “The value you bring is you. The value you bring is your ability to understand the prospect, your ability to guide the prospect.”
  • Kevin: “Figure out for yourself what makes the most value for your customers. When they say, ‘thank you,’ what do they say thank you for?”

Additional Resources

  • Book: “Challenger Sale” – Recommended for understanding the concept of challenging and driving customer business – https://a.co/d/cIUwphe.
  • Book: “Eliminate Your Competition” by Sean O’Shaughnessey https://a.co/d/4qCVNEP.

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide a deep dive into the world of consumable sales, emphasizing the importance of being more than just a salesperson – being a trusted advisor. They discuss the necessity of understanding your product and your customer, crafting a unique selling proposition, and the critical role of sales managers and CEOs in empowering their teams. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or just starting, this episode offers practical advice and strategies to excel in the competitive market of consumable sales. Tune in to “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” for these and more invaluable sales insights.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Selling Repeat Products: A Guide to Thriving in Consumable Product Sales – E69

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Selling Repeat Products: A Guide to Thriving in Consumable Product Sales – E69

Welcome to another insightful episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosted by Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey. In this episode, the duo delves into the often overlooked but crucial sales aspect – selling consumable products. They explore strategies and insights for salespeople who deal with regularly consumed and repurchased products, such as manufacturing supplies, paper products, and even everyday items like toilet paper.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Unique Challenges of Selling Consumable Products: Understanding the dynamics of selling products that are regularly used up and repurchased.
  2. Strategic Sales Approaches: How to effectively sell consumable products in competitive markets.
  3. The Importance of Value Proposition: Emphasizing the significance of a unique selling proposition (USP) in consumable product sales.
  4. Salesperson’s Role in Consumable Sales: The critical impact of the salesperson’s understanding of the customer’s business and needs.
  5. Territory Management and Growth Strategies: Effective methods for expanding sales territories and managing customer accounts.
  6. Cross-Selling and Team Collaboration: Leveraging the strengths of a sales team through cross-pollination of skills and coaching.

Key Quotes

  • Sean: “In the environment we’re talking about here, where it’s a consumable product… the quality of the salesperson comes to play in a big way.”
  • Kevin: “You need to know where and how you compete. It’s as simple as that. Who do I call on? How do I compete? Is it price? Is it value?”

Additional Resources

  • Sean O’Shaughnessey’s book “Eliminate Your Competition” for more in-depth sales strategies – https://amzn.to/2K37ugx

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide valuable insights into the world of selling consumable products. They emphasize the importance of understanding the unique challenges of this market, including the need for a strong value proposition and the crucial role of the salesperson in understanding and meeting customer needs. The discussion also covers effective territory management and the benefits of leveraging team strengths for cross-selling. This episode is a must-listen for sales professionals looking to excel in the consumable products market and for those seeking to enhance their sales strategies in competitive environments.

Listen to this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales to gain valuable insights and strategies for excelling in the consumable products market, and to learn how to effectively grow your sales territory and manage customer relationships

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Mastering the Art of Sales: Strategies to Outshine Your Competitors in 2024 – E68

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Mastering the Art of Sales: Strategies to Outshine Your Competitors in 2024 – E68

Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey delve into the art of salesmanship. In this episode, Sean, author of “Eliminate Your Competition,” shares his expertise on outmaneuvering the competition and achieving sales success in 2024. Join us for a deep dive into the strategies that can transform your sales approach and set you up for a prosperous year.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Understanding Competition: Sean emphasizes the importance of competition in sales, explaining how it can actually benefit the sales process by reducing the likelihood of a ‘no decision’ outcome.
  2. Five Sales Strategies: Sean outlines the five fundamental sales strategies – Frontal, Flanking, Fragment, Defend, and Develop – and explains how each can be effectively utilized in different sales scenarios.
  3. Strategy in Detail:
    1. Frontal Strategy: Focused on leveraging clear advantages over competitors, requiring excellence in execution and resource intensity.
    2. Flanking Strategy: Involves shifting the customer’s focus to new issues that favor your solution, requiring a deep understanding of the customer’s needs.
    3. Fragment Strategy: Useful for politically weaker positions or less feature-rich products, focusing on a subset of issues.
    4. Defend Strategy: Essential for existing customers, focusing on expanding influence and defending against competitors.
    5. Develop Strategy: Ideal for long-term engagement where immediate purchase isn’t imminent, focusing on building credibility and relationships.
  4. Salesperson Types and Strategies: Sean discusses how different types of salespeople, like Trappers, Hunters, Farmers, and Gatherers, may prefer different strategies based on their strengths and sales approach.

Key Quotes

  • Sean: “Competition is a good thing in sales. It often means you’re more likely to avoid losing a deal to No Decision.”

Additional Resources

  • Book: “Eliminate Your Competition: A Trapper’s Guide to Increasing Your Commission” by Sean O’Shaughnessey, available wherever books are sold – https://amzn.to/2K37ugx.

Summary

In this episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” Sean O’Shaughnessey shares invaluable insights from his book “Eliminate Your Competition,” guiding listeners through various sales strategies to outsmart competitors in 2024. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or new to the field, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge on approaching sales challenges creatively and effectively. Tune in to learn how to adapt these strategies to your sales style and set yourself up for a successful year in sales.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Holiday Reflections and Giving Back: A Special Episode – E67

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Holiday Reflections and Giving Back: A Special Episode – E67

Welcome to a special holiday edition of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey share a heartwarming and reflective episode. As we wind down the year, Kevin and Sean take a moment to step back from the hustle of sales strategies and focus on the essence of the holiday season, sharing personal anecdotes and extending warm wishes to their listeners.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Holiday Reflections: Sean reminisces about a memorable holiday season experience that involved closing a deal in a unique and personal setting.
  2. Work-Life Balance: The importance of relaxing during the holidays and spending quality time with family and loved ones.
  3. Community Involvement: Kevin highlights the significance of giving back to the community and shares insights into their volunteer work.
  4. Building a Supportive Community: The hosts discuss their plans to continue developing their podcast and CEO workshop series in the coming year, emphasizing the value of free resources and support for the sales community.
  5. The Spirit of Giving: A reminder to consider how we can contribute positively to others’ lives, especially during the holiday season.

Key Quotes

  • Sean: “Just have a good time with your family right now.”
  • Kevin: “In this season of giving, think about how you can give to others. Happy holidays.”

Summary

In this heartwarming episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” Kevin and Sean step away from their usual sales-focused discussions to embrace the holiday spirit. They share personal stories, emphasize the importance of family time, and encourage listeners to engage in community service. This episode is a gentle reminder of the joy and fulfillment that comes from giving back and spending time with loved ones. Tune in for a dose of holiday cheer and inspiration to carry into the new year.

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Your Sales Game: Key Strategies for Pipeline Development – E66

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Your Sales Game: Key Strategies for Pipeline Development – E66

Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey dive deep into the crucial topic of building a new pipeline for business growth. In this episode, Kevin shares his expertise on net new pipeline growth, offering valuable strategies for sales leaders and teams to enhance their sales processes and achieve success.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Net New Pipeline Growth: Kevin emphasizes the importance of building a net new pipeline, focusing on strategic and tactical levels to drive sales success.
  2. Activities That Matter: The discussion highlights the significance of consistent, purposeful activities that contribute to sales success, moving beyond quotas to meaningful engagement.
  3. Sales and Marketing Synergy: Kevin stresses the need for sales and marketing to work harmoniously, focusing on acquiring and retaining customers through collaborative efforts.
  4. Role of Sales Leaders: The episode delves into the responsibilities of sales leaders in ensuring their teams focus on the right activities and engage with the right prospects.
  5. Importance of Sales Process and CRM: Kevin discusses how a well-structured sales process and effective CRM usage are crucial for managing and converting leads effectively.
  6. Personal and Professional Brand Building: The conversation touches upon the importance of salespeople growing their network and brand to attract the ideal client profiles.

Key Quotes

  • Kevin: “Activities do matter… It’s about doing the things consistently over time that we know return success.”
  • Kevin: “Sales and marketing should be complimentary, not adversarial… Our whole goal is to acquire and retain customers.”
  • Kevin: “As salespeople, we have a responsibility to be intentional… about creating enough relevant content via activity to get in front of the right people.”

Additional Resources

  • Sales methodologies like MEDDPICCC, SOAR, and BANT.

Summary

In this episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” Kevin Lawson discusses the critical aspect of building a new pipeline for business growth. He provides a comprehensive overview of the strategies and activities necessary for sales success, emphasizing the synergy between sales and marketing, the role of sales leaders, and the importance of a well-structured sales process. This episode is a treasure trove of insights for sales professionals looking to enhance their approach to sales and achieve their goals in the coming year. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from the experts and elevate your sales game.