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What An MBA Didn’t Teach You About Sales

The sales profession is challenging. You need to work hard at it to succeed. You need to learn from the best. You need to improve your skills continuously. If you think you can sell since you are a hit at parties and have a lot of friends, you may soon find that you are a failure as a salesperson. Blunt truth:

because the sales profession is so hard, you have to focus on doing everything in sales very well, or you will be considered a failure.

I call this blog, Skinned Knees because I try to relate all of the learning that I have done over the past 4+ decades (while skinning my knees in the learning process).

I hope that you learn from my mistakes so that your business will grow!

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Building a Mission-Led Sales Culture: Insights from Richard Cogswell – E106

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey sit down with Richard Cogswell, a 20-year sales veteran and author who leads the APAC region in the FinTech space. Richard shares his journey from commission-only sales in the insurance industry to becoming a B2B sales leader in the complex world of payments. Together, they discuss the critical importance of developing a mission-led culture, the pitfalls of sales leadership without… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Building a Mission-Led Sales Culture: Insights from Richard Cogswell – E106

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Strategic Sales Planning: Finish Strong and Prepare for FY25 – E105

As the year winds down and football season takes over, Sean O’Shaughnessey and Kevin Lawson remind us that it’s time for sales leaders to focus on the coming year. In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, Sean and Kevin dive into actionable strategies for building a strong foundation in FY25, including compensation plan design, strategic projects, and investing in your sales team. Whether you’re a sales leader, business owner, or manager, this episode… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Strategic Sales Planning: Finish Strong and Prepare for FY25 – E105

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Success and Growing Pains: How to Build Systems That Scale – E104

In this episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey explore the complexities of rapid sales growth. While many companies aspire to grow, not all are ready for the operational strain accompanying success. The hosts share insights on scaling systems, optimizing sales operations, and ensuring growth doesn’t break your business. This episode offers actionable strategies for businesses facing fast-paced expansion, from onboarding salespeople to expanding infrastructure. Key Topics Discussed: Key Quotes: A… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Success and Growing Pains: How to Build Systems That Scale – E104

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Daily Habits for Deepening Sales Relationships: A Guide for Busy Sales Professionals – E103

In this insightful episode, Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey delve into practical strategies for deepening relationships and boosting sales without extensive outreach efforts. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or just starting out, this episode is packed with actionable tips to enhance your sales approach by focusing on the people you already know. Key Topics Discussed: Key Quotes: Additional Resources: A Significant Actionable Item from this Podcast: Daily Personalized Outreach: Dedicate a few minutes daily… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Daily Habits for Deepening Sales Relationships: A Guide for Busy Sales Professionals – E103

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Strategy Deep Dive: How to Align Offers with Client Expectations – E102

Join hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey in a dynamic episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where they dive deep into the essential elements of crafting an effective sales strategy. Whether you’re a sales newbie or a seasoned pro, this episode promises insights into refining your approach to acquiring new clients and boosting your sales performance. Key Topics Discussed: Key Quotes: Additional Resources: A Significant Actionable Item from this Podcast: Reflect on Your Client… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Sales Strategy Deep Dive: How to Align Offers with Client Expectations – E102

Differentiating in the Sales Process: The Key to Boosting Bottom Line

The roles of salespeople, sales managers, and small business CEOs are ever-evolving. A common problem faced is increasing revenue and productivity in sales processes. This goal is common for all, from individual salespeople striving to provide for their families to CEOs seeking to boost their company’s bottom line. The key to achieving this lies in understanding the dynamic nature of the sales environment and leveraging it effectively.

A significant part of the sales process revolves around the buyer’s perception of a product or service as a commodity. This misclassification is usually caused by insufficient differentiation in the early stages of the sales process. Differentiation is crucial in any sales process, regardless of the industry or scenario. Creating enough differentiation can be the difference between closing a deal at a discounted rate or the desired price.

Salespeople are experts in their field, whether selling a unique product specific to their company or a common commodity. They typically have a deeper understanding of what they are selling than their prospects have about what they are buying. This expertise should be leveraged to guide prospects through the buying process, adding value to the relationship and making the salesperson indispensable. This approach can reduce the emphasis on price and increase the potential for higher earnings.

Every business has unique values that differentiate it from its competitors. These unique values could be anything from their mission, vision, and values to their market commitment and guarantee. This is commonly called a Unique Value Proposition (UVP) or a Unique Sales Proposition (USP). While a UVP and a USP are similar, there is a slight difference in that the former is typically created by the Marketing department (or sometimes with the help of a business adviser such as an EOS implementer. The latter is directly targeted at salespeople and what a salesperson should say to their prospects and customers. Salespeople should understand what makes them different and communicate this effectively to their prospects. The ability to create separation and differentiate oneself is why people pay for a product or service.

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Unstick Your Sales: The Importance of Understanding the Buyer’s Journey

It’s no secret that the dynamics between the buyer and the salesperson play a pivotal role in sealing the deal. The conversation often revolves around real sales issues, selling situations, and sales leadership. 

Let’s delve into a scenario. You’re selling to a beer industry manufacturer, and their first question is about your price. This immediate focus on cost might make you think this may not be a good prospect. However, it’s crucial to remember that you can’t be disrespectful or dismissive. As salespeople, it’s our job to work with what we have. 

In this situation, the salesperson has to conduct a discovery call and engage a subject matter expert to understand the prospect’s business process, adaptation, and conversion. Unfortunately, the interaction turned into a commodity exchange, with the buyer solely interested in the number of users and the price per user. 

This scenario illustrates a common challenge in sales: the sales and buying processes often need to align. How your Customer Relationship Management (CRM) system is set up may not necessarily mirror how the buyer decides. Therefore, figuring out how to sell more effectively based on the buyer’s journey is crucial. Understanding the buyer is discussed in great detail in my book Eliminate Your Competition, which is available wherever you buy books.

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Overcoming Ghosting and Other Modern Sales Challenges: A Proactive Approach

Many salespeople, sales managers, and company CEOs grapple with the unique problem of adapting their sales strategies to ever-changing market dynamics. This problem stems from an old-fashioned practice in which sales leaders tend to offer the same advice that made them successful when they were nascent salespeople. However, to remain competitive and productive, realizing that this traditional advice may no longer hold relevance in today’s sales world is crucial.

Let’s consider a sales leader who made his mark when the internet was still in its infancy, and email and mobile phones were not part of the sales process. If this sales leader continues to advise their team based on those past experiences, they will likely be setting them up for failure. Today, the sales world is no longer about physical gatekeepers but about navigating spam filters and phone blockers. The sales environment has evolved, and it’s time sales strategies do, too.

A typical issue salespeople face today is being ‘ghosted’ by potential clients. Ghosting, a relatively modern term, refers to the situation where the person you’re trying to reach is not returning your calls or emails. It’s a frustrating experience, but it also indicates a salesperson’s failure to be proactive and do the right things earlier in the sales cycle. Modern salespeople need to think ahead, plan better, and ensure they set up the next meeting before leaving the current one. This proactive approach can help prevent ghosting, keep the sales conversation going, and indicate progress.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – From Microphones to Mountains – Reflecting on 100 Episodes of Sales Wisdom – E100

Join hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey in this milestone 100th episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales.” They take a nostalgic trip down memory lane, revisiting the evolution of their podcast from simple LinkedIn live events to a thriving sales discussion platform on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. They delve into their personal growth, the transformative insights gained, and the invaluable lessons they’ve shared across 100 episodes. Key Topics Discussed: Key Quotes: Additional Resources: Previous… Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – From Microphones to Mountains – Reflecting on 100 Episodes of Sales Wisdom – E100

Mastering Sales in the Digital Age: A Case Study on Megan O’Hara

The sales landscape constantly evolves, and the tools and techniques used to reach potential clients are continually refined and reimagined. One such innovative approach to sales and marketing is pioneered by salespeople and sales managers leveraging technology to add value to their client relationships and boost their sales figures. 

Megan O’Hara, an executive solution specialist in Columbus, Ohio, is at the forefront of this movement. She has developed a unique method of reaching out to clients that adds value to their lives, increases her customer access, and builds her credibility. This method is simple yet impactful: Megan sends a weekly tech tip in a short video format every Monday.

This approach is designed to keep her name at the top of her clients’ minds. In a world where attention spans are increasingly limited and competition for customer attention is fierce, being the first person a client thinks of when they need a product or service is vital. By sending out these tech tips, Megan is providing a valuable service to her clients and ensuring that she remains at the forefront of their minds.

The success of this approach is evident in the response Megan has received from her clients. Many have contacted her after receiving her tech tips, expressing appreciation for her added value to their lives and initiating further business conversations. This is a clear testament to the power of this approach in building strong client relationships and driving sales.

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