Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Special Episode: CEO Workshop – Avoiding B2B Sales Mistakes That Are Limiting Revenue Growth – Episode 57

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Special Episode: CEO Workshop – Avoiding B2B Sales Mistakes That Are Limiting Revenue Growth – Episode 57

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Welcome to a special episode of Two Tall Guys Talking Sales, hosted by seasoned sales professionals Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey. Today’s episode is a goldmine for small business owners, consultants, and sales teams looking to scale and outperform their competition. 

This is the audio version of a CEO Workshop recorded on LinkedIn on October 19. You can watch the entire webinar (along with the slides) by going to 

Sean O’Shaughnessy and Kevin Lawson have decided to release these workshops as podcast episodes. The topic of this episode is Avoiding B2B Sales Mistakes that Limit Growth.

Kevin explains the importance of avoiding mistakes and continuously refining sales strategies and skills. He also discusses businesses’ challenges, such as rising costs and limited resources. Inflation, the Consumer Price Index, and labor costs impact business owners. Kevin advises businesses to adjust their prices accordingly to maintain margins. He emphasizes the need for strategic and tactical management to overcome market factors that affect business outcomes. The goal is to increase the value of the business for future saleability.

Kevin also discusses the importance of being strategic and tactical in business. He emphasizes the need to be organized, focused, and create relevant content. Salespeople should also think like marketers to attract customers.

Kevin then discusses responding to RFPs (Request for Proposals) and suggests that businesses should decide whether or not to respond based on their industry and goals. He highlights the low success rate of RFPs and encourages evaluating if it’s worth investing time in them.

The next topic is Sales Playbooks, which are comprehensive documents that help train sales teams by outlining best practices and providing guidance on client communication. Kevin explains the benefits of having a Sales Playbook but acknowledges that many businesses may not have one or have had lackluster results with them. Finally, Kevin suggests documenting a typical sales process as a foundational step toward creating an effective Sales Playbook.

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Researching Industry Trends: Stay updated on shifts in the market to provide relevant solutions – Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses – Episode 1

Researching Industry Trends: Stay updated on shifts in the market to provide relevant solutions – Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses – Episode 1

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Welcome to another episode of “Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses.” This podcast is your compass in navigating the complex world of B2B sales, especially in the enterprise landscape. In this riveting episode, our host, Sean O’Shaughnessey, deep dives into a topic of crucial significance for sales professionals: Researching Industry Trends in the Enterprise Space. If you’re eager to transform from a transactional vendor into a strategic partner, this episode is your blueprint for success.

Key Topics Discussed

  • The Importance of Research for Enterprise Sales – Unearth the value of knowing your client’s business landscape, from understanding decision-making structures to identifying specific needs.
  • Risk Mitigation as a Sales Strategy – Leverage quality research to transition from merely providing solutions to actively mitigating risks at an enterprise level.
  • Being Predictive, Not Just Reactive – Adopt a visionary approach by predicting future market trends and tailoring your sales strategies to match long-term client needs.
  • Crafting Tailored Sales Messages – Learn how to craft sales proposals that don’t just meet current needs but align with the strategic objectives of your enterprise clients.
  • Strategies for CEOs and Sales Managers – Understand the role of top management in fostering a culture that prioritizes research and long-term client alignment.

Key Quotes

“Market research becomes your navigation tool, guiding you through the labyrinthine structures of enterprise decision-making.”

“Your deep understanding of market dynamics enables you to frame your offering in a way that lowers or even eliminates certain risks.”

“With your research, you become more than a salesperson. You become a consultant equipped with actionable insights into your client’s industry.”

Additional Resources

  • SWOT Analysis Templates – For conducting industry-specific research.
  • Public Records and Financial Reports – Annual reports, quarterly filings, and investor presentations for understanding company goals and strategies.
  • CRM Systems – Efficient tools for sales professionals to organize and manage research data.

Sponsor

Our sponsor for this episode of “Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses” is Carpe Diem Consulting Group. Carpe Diem Consulting Group and its founder, Chris Spanier, drive growth by crafting effective marketing and compelling brand stories for their clients. They love collaborating to bring fresh strategic perspectives that increase their clients’ impact and connections through results-driven marketing – enhancing your online presence, crafting better messaging, prospecting assistance, and more. Working with Carpe Diem Consulting Group leads to more compelling brand narratives, deeper engagement with customers and prospects, and measurable success. You can reach Chris at chris@CDCG.US.

About Sean:

Sean is a professional sales leader with over 38 years of experience in complex business-to-business sales.

Sean helps company owners realize the maximum value of their company by improving their revenue generation capability. ​He helps owners enhance their sales management, methodologies, processes, teams, and messaging to accomplish this.

In his current role as a Fractional Vice President of Sales, Sean has:

  • Helped a company increase its value by 50% with a significant and successful acquisition of the company.
  • Helped a company scale from its angel investments to its series B investments.
  • Helped a company achieve a 50% increase in revenue with a 300% increase in profitability in a single year.
  • Stabilized and put predictability into the sales teams of his clients.

If you need help making your sales organization a top-performing part of your company, you can contact Sean at Sean@NewSales.Expert.

About the podcast:

Driving New Sales: Transforming Small Businesses into Sales Powerhouses focuses on arming CEOs with the knowledge and tools they need to build an exemplary sales operation. This is not a podcast that skims the surface; it delves deep into each facet of sales management, shedding light on the best practices that can elevate a company from mere competence to true excellence. “Driving New Sales” is not just a podcast; it’s a toolkit for building sales powerhouses that are responsive, proactive, efficient, and exemplary.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Mastering the Sales Process: The Cost of Skipping Steps – Episode 51

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Mastering the Sales Process: The Cost of Skipping Steps – Episode 51

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In this episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey delve deep into the intricacies of the sales process. Sean opens up about his impatience with time-wasting and the challenges he’s faced with sales reps skipping crucial steps in the sales process. Kevin emphasizes the importance of understanding why steps are skipped, whether it’s due to reluctance or irrelevance. Both hosts stress the significance of aligning the sales process with the decision-making process of the customer. They also touch upon the financial implications of not following the sales process, highlighting the potential costs and the importance of cost containment. The episode concludes with a teaser for the next episode, where they will discuss how to recover when a step is skipped.

Key Topics Discussed:

  1. The importance of following the sales process.
  2. Reasons why salespeople skip steps in the process.
  3. The financial implications of not adhering to the sales process.
  4. Aligning the sales process with the customer’s decision-making process.
  5. The concept of cost containment in sales.

Key Quotes:

  • Kevin: “The process is what drives your business. It’s what helps you forecast, determine cash flows.”
  • Sean: “The danger of not asking questions high enough and not following your sales process is when you don’t allow your sales process to drive the decision process by the buyer.”

Dive into the world of sales with Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey as they unpack the essence of the sales process. From understanding why steps are skipped to the financial repercussions of not adhering to the process, this episode is a goldmine of insights for anyone in the sales industry. Whether you’re a CEO, a sales rep, or just curious about the intricacies of sales, this episode promises valuable takeaways. And stay tuned for the next episode, where the duo will explore how to bounce back when a step in the sales process is missed. Don’t miss out on this enlightening discussion!

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Four of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Analyzing Customer Goals: Understanding Competitive Landscape: Recognize your client’s relationships with your competitors to better position your offerings.

Four of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Analyzing Customer Goals: Understanding Competitive Landscape: Recognize your client’s relationships with your competitors to better position your offerings.

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Crafting the Perfect Sales Strategy: Understanding the Competitive Landscape

In the world of sales, understanding the competitive landscape is as vital as the seasoned chess player’s ability to predict their opponent’s moves. Think of the business landscape as a grand chessboard. Each company, akin to a player, tactically moves, adjusts to threats, and seeks positions of influence. These moves signify their strategy, and a crucial part of this strategy revolves around their competitive dynamics. For sales leaders and professionals, this knowledge doesn’t just serve to inform—it reshapes the narrative and the very essence of their pitch.

The Significance of the Competitive Environment

Let’s delve into a hypothetical situation to provide depth to our premise. Suppose you’re approaching Company A—a company recently disillusioned by a competitor’s solution. If your pitch mirrors the competitor’s offering, you’re at a disadvantage. The inherent bias against similar solutions is palpable. However, being aware of this dynamic and highlighting how your superior solution pivots your pitch from ordinary to compelling. It’s not just a strategy; it’s foundational to successful selling.

The Ever-changing Nature of Competition

But here’s where the complexity sets in. Competitive relationships are like rivers; they are seldom static. They change, influenced by external market shifts, internal strategic decisions, and evolving company needs. The true challenge is the fluidity of these relationships. Rarely does a company broadcast its grievances or alliances with competitors. Thus, as sales professionals, it’s imperative to recognize and navigate these nuances.

Navigating the Maze of Competition

To truly understand and utilize this knowledge, a multifaceted approach is paramount. Start with a bird’s-eye view. Familiarize yourself with the significant industry players and their affiliations. Who are the allies, competitors, or potential merger interests?

Delving deeper, the gold often lies in direct client interactions. Comments referencing past associations, like “We used to work with…” can provide invaluable insights into their competitive history. Furthermore, creating channels for feedback post-pitch can reveal comparisons they make with competitors—insights that can refine future strategies.

Moreover, staying updated is non-negotiable. Attend industry conferences, join forums, and subscribe to trade journals. In an era of technological advancement, tools like CRM systems and competitive analysis platforms provide real-time insights into a company’s competitive standing and relationships.

My book, Eliminate Your Competition, can be a great window into dealing with competitors. Understanding your major competition, your minor competitors, and your niche competitors can be helpful in how you develop your strategy to entice your prospect to become a customer. There is a benefit in having competition also since without competition, you are unsure if the prospect is truly serious about making a change, in other words, spending their money on your product.

You may purchase my book Eliminate Your Competition from your favorite book retailer. The ebook version is available at the most popular retailers such as Apple, Amazon, Barnes & Noble. The paperback version is also widely available at such retailers as Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Books A Million.

Crafting the Masterstroke: Your Sales Pitch

Armed with such rich insights, the pitch transforms. It’s no longer about selling a product or a service. It’s about situating your solution within a broader competitive context, differentiating it, and accentuating its unique value. For example, if a prospective client had scalability concerns with a competitor’s product, spotlighting scalability as a cornerstone of your offering isn’t just strategic—it’s transformative.

The Competitive Chessboard

Navigating the intricate business world, with its fluid relationships and shifting loyalties, is reminiscent of a grand chess game. The board, filled with complex moves and strategies, demands foresight and precision. CEOs, sales managers, and professionals must understand that in the realm of sales, this is more than just about the product.

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Two of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Identifying Key Decision Makers: Know who holds influence to target presentations and pitches effectively.

Two of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Identifying Key Decision Makers: Know who holds influence to target presentations and pitches effectively.

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Precision in Sales: Identifying Key Decision Makers

Navigating the labyrinth of modern sales requires more than just a sharp understanding of your product. It requires clarity about your audience – the pivotal decision-makers who shape the trajectory of business deals. Drawing an analogy, consider a seasoned archer. The archer’s prowess is not merely in the pull of the bow but in the precision with which he identifies and hits the target. For those vested in sales, this target comprises the key decision-makers within a prospective client’s organization.

To lay the foundation, it’s essential to grasp that today’s corporations are not simplistic entities with a lone decision-making authority. I spend time explaining this in my book Eliminate Your Competition and in the blog posts supporting that book. Picture modern corporations as sprawling metropolises. Yes, there’s a mayor, but a host of other influencers – the business tycoons, policy advisors, and community leaders – each plays a part. Translating this to a corporate setting, beyond the towering presence of the CEO are the department heads, procurement officers, and sometimes, external consultants who play a role in decision-making. A revealing statistic notes that in many large corporations, the buying decision isn’t just the purview of one but a collective of 7-8 individuals, each bringing their perspective to the table.

Dive deeper into the implications of this. Operating blindfolded, with a broad target group of 100 potential influencers in the prospective corporation, your chances of engaging the right decision-makers is a mere 7-8%. However, with precise identification, you amplify your engagement effectiveness to over 90%. The magnitude of this difference in approach isn’t just quantitative but profoundly qualitative, influencing the trajectory of the sales process.

But the path to this precision is laden with challenges. Today’s organizations are evolving, with flatter hierarchies and collaborative decision-making. Unlike earlier times, the decision-making power is not solely with the top-tier executives; influence has become democratized. Though not wearing any significant title, stealth influencers can sometimes significantly steer decisions.

So, how does one maneuver through this intricate maze? The key lies in a blend of practical action and analytical discernment:

  • Industry-Specific Acumen: Every industry has its unique structural DNA. Understand this. The decision-making dynamics in a budding tech startup differ vastly from a century-old manufacturing giant.
  • Relationship Building: Frontline managers and executives, often overlooked, are reservoirs of insights. Their vantage point provides a clearer picture of the organization’s internal decision-making landscape.
  • Digital Platforms: Tools like LinkedIn are not just professional networking platforms but a goldmine for insights. Here, you can go beyond official titles and delve into an individual’s influence, judging by their professional endorsements, content shared, and network strength.
  • Networking at Industry Events: Beyond product showcases, industry events serve as platforms to understand the industry’s influencers.
  • Direct Queries: In your interactions, never hesitate to ask, “Who are the other decision stakeholders?” This showcases your earnestness and intention to cater to all relevant influencers. It is also worthwhile to ask, “The last time you bought a product like mine, can you describe how that decision-making process worked and who was involved?”

Using a tool like the Power Matrix, which I explain in great detail in my book, Eliminate Your Competiton, is worthwhile. The Power Matrix is an excellent tool for understanding the organization. I promise that if you can successfully fill out the Power Matrix in every account, you will be phenomenally successful.

Armed with this understanding, the sales strategy transforms. Recognizing that each decision-maker brings a unique perspective, sales pitches can be tailored. The concerns of a CFO would differ from those of a CTO. Precision targeting ensures your sales narrative addresses these nuances, elevating the pitch from a generic presentation to a tailored engagement.

For CEOs and sales professionals attuned to this discourse, the path to success in sales is akin to a symphony. Each note, each pause, and each crescendo is intentional. By understanding who pulls the strings in decision-making, you elevate your position. Your transition from being just another vendor to a strategic partner who doesn’t just aim to sell but aims to resonate. It’s about precision. It’s about forming lasting relationships. It’s about being in sync with the orchestra of decision-makers, ensuring your notes are pitch-perfect every single time.

You may purchase my book Eliminate Your Competition from your favorite book retailer. The ebook version is available at the most popular retailers, such as Apple, Amazon, Barnes & Noble. The paperback version is also widely available at retailers like Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Books A Million.

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Ace of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Researching Industry Trends: Stay updated on shifts in the market to provide relevant solutions.

Ace of Spades: Understanding your client’s business: Researching Industry Trends: Stay updated on shifts in the market to provide relevant solutions.

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Sailing Through the Business Sea: The Imperative of Understanding Client Industries

In the intricate dance of sales management, salespeople often become profoundly attuned to their own products, services, and performance metrics. However, they sometimes lose sight of an elemental cornerstone: genuinely understanding the client’s business. This omission is akin to a sailor venturing into the sea without comprehending its currents and tides. A lack of this depth of knowledge can lead one astray, making the voyage uncertain and potentially perilous.

Let’s start with an underlying principle: triumph isn’t simply about the merit of your product or service in the sales ecosystem. It’s intricately tied to the bigger picture of your client’s sector, their unique requirements, and inherent challenges. For instance, a physician would never recommend a new drug without an exhaustive assessment. Similarly, a sales maven should not provide solutions without a comprehensive grasp of the client’s operational goals and challenges.

Picture the world of commerce as a sprawling symphony with its distinct sections – finance, technology, health, entertainment, and more. Introducing a novel element into this setting without recognizing its intended cadence and synchronization is like striking a discordant note amidst a harmonious performance.

Moreover, the essence of industries is not static. They’re akin to living entities, evolving and reshaping, influenced by many external dynamics. Remember the challenges of supply chains a few years ago during the global pandemic crisis, which was disruptive to nearly every industry. Reflect on the tech sphere, where an innovation leap of merely 10% can redefine market paradigms. Or ponder the fashion industry, where trends can instantly pivot demand dynamics. This underlines the paramount significance of monitoring industry currents. It’s about envisioning not just the present but anticipating the future trajectory. And this foresight isn’t just academic—it’s a tangible asset sculpting sales tactics, product innovations, and client dialogues.

With each industry wave comes a plethora of challenges and windows of opportunity. A sales expert attuned to these modulations can craft proactive strategies. For instance, if insights indicate a surging trend of telecommuting in a domain, a firm dealing in office essentials might transition towards catering to home office needs. The fulcrum here lies in actionable strategies. Recognizing a shift is the starting line. The finish line? Crafting aligned strategies saying, “We recognize your industry’s transition, and our solution is primed to cater to it.”

To the CEOs, sales leaders, and organizational vanguards heeding this narrative, the takeaway is obvious: arm your sales brigades with the arsenal to perpetually decode industry waves. Foster a culture of perennial learning through seminars, journals, or deep-dive analytical sessions.

The commercial realm doesn’t exist in isolation. A ripple in one segment can cascade through others. By ensuring your salespeople are enlightened about their relative industry and the overarching market landscape, you elevate them, and consequently, your enterprise, to a pedestal of relevance, cognizance, and adaptability.

Truly grasping your client’s domain transcends the immediate deal. It crafts enduring alliances, painting you as an ally, not merely a supplier. Demonstrating to a client your intrinsic understanding of their industry’s intricacies, evolutions, and potential paths carves an indelible impression. It resonates with the ethos, “As your domain transitions, we remain with you, presenting apt solutions at every juncture.”

In the fluctuating oceans of commerce, let profound insight and cognition be your navigating star, directing you toward triumph, pertinence, and perennial collaborations.


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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Driving Sales Success: Why KPIs Are More Than Just Numbers – Episode 45

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales Podcast – Driving Sales Success: Why KPIs Are More Than Just Numbers – Episode 45

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Get ready to unlock the secrets of mastering the sales game with Two Tall Guys Talking Sales! This episode delves into the nuances of key performance indicators (KPIs), their significance in measuring sales efficiency, and the art of mentorship among salespeople. Listen as our hosts Sean and Kevin uncover the analogy of KPIs and share insights about setting the right measures for salespeople at various career stages.

Key Topics Discussed:

  1. Understanding Leading vs. Lagging Indicators: Foreseeing future trends and not just measuring past achievements is important.
  2. KPIs and the Marriage Analogy: Setting the right measures to cultivate relationships, just as one nurtures a romantic relationship.
  3. Differentiating KPIs for New vs. Veteran Salespeople: Tailoring strategies for those new to the profession, the company, or the industry.
  4. The Power of Mentorship: Leveraging the experiences of veteran salespeople and fostering growth among younger salespeople.
  5. Sales Training and Coaching: How combining formal sales training with hands-on coaching can amplify results.

Key Quotes:

  • Kevin: “KPIs are not about only the number of deals you sold. It’s about, ‘Am I doing the right behaviors over time?'”
  • Sean: “Those KPIs can’t be a hundred percent looking backward. We need to look ahead and say, what are we doing to generate business?”
  • Kevin: “Activity measures for new salespeople are different. I’m talking about doing the well-researched, planned prospecting call.”
  • Sean: “The real advantage of The RAIN Group is its training combined with my coaching.”

Additional Resources:

With a blend of engaging analogies, actionable insights, and personal experiences, Sean and Kevin illuminate the complex world of sales KPIs. Whether you’re a seasoned salesperson or just beginning your journey, this episode is packed with nuggets of wisdom that can transform your approach to sales. Dive deep into the essence of mentorship, discover the right measures for tracking success, and unearth the significance of forward-looking indicators. Don’t miss out on this chance to elevate your sales strategies and metrics. Listen now and redefine your sales mastery with Two Tall Guys Talking Sales!

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies – E24

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies – E24

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Kevin and Sean have a special guest for this episode! Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies. 

Kelly is a sales expert who works as an advisor to help mid to small-size businesses build a path to more sales. The topic of the conversation is “The Sales Skills Required to Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals.” Kelly discusses the importance of value proposition and its broader concept, focusing on why buyers should buy from a company. She stresses the importance of customizing the value proposition to each client and the need to consider customer feedback, industry trends, and client resonance.

According to Kelly, a strong value proposition can help businesses gain customer loyalty, win more sales, and charge premium fees. However, she highlights that companies need to tailor the concept of the value proposition to each client, which requires a customized approach. The conversation also highlights that teaching salespeople how to articulate their value proposition compellingly and tangibly is critical. Therefore, businesses must shift their thought processes and create value propositions based on customer feedback, needs, and industry trends.

Kelly has a background in sales, sales leadership, and entrepreneurship, and her experience indicates that any company can learn to create a strong value proposition. However, it requires a tailored approach that considers each client’s needs and requirements. The conversation provides valuable insights for businesses and salespeople on the importance of customizing the value proposition and the benefits of having a solid value proposition.

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