Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Carving Success: Chris Spanier on Sales-Marketing Synergy – E77

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Carving Success: Chris Spanier on Sales-Marketing Synergy – E77

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In this insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey continue their conversation with Chris Spanier, a seasoned marketing expert and the founder of Carpe Diem Consulting Group. Building on the momentum from last week’s discussion on storytelling and marketing alignment, Chris delves deeper into strategies for small businesses aiming to enhance their sales and marketing focus without the luxury of a large budget. Tune in to discover actionable advice for fostering a productive partnership between sales and marketing teams and driving company growth.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Budget Discipline Across Business Sizes: Chris emphasizes the importance of budget discipline, whether in a small business or a corporate setting, and the need for strategic alignment between sales and marketing.
  2. Building Sales and Marketing Synergy: Insight into initiating fruitful conversations between sales and marketing to identify common goals, target audiences, and strategies for mutual success.
  3. Tactics for Limited Budgets: Practical approaches for small businesses to test marketing strategies efficiently and affordably, including rapid iteration and leveraging insights for improvement.
  4. The Importance of Sales and Marketing Collaboration: Chris discusses the transformative impact of sales and marketing working in harmony, sharing a real-life example of this partnership leading to significant business success.
  5. Advice for CEOs on Differentiating Sales and Marketing: Tips for company leaders to understand the distinct roles of sales and marketing, fostering a collaborative rather than hierarchical relationship.

Key Quotes

Chris Spanier:

“When sales and marketing start talking together, and they start planning and supporting each other, then suddenly, it’s like, you’re not the enemy. You’re actually an incredible asset and an ally.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Marketing and sales are partners in this journey of customer acquisition and revenue growth, not a hand-off relationship.”

Kevin Lawson:

“What do you wish we as salespeople would ask you first before we say, how are you getting us more leads?”

Additional Resources

  • Carpe Diem Consulting Group: Chris Spanier’s marketing consultancy bridges small to medium-sized businesses seeking to establish or enhance their marketing efforts. – https://www.carpediemconsultinggroup.com/

Summary

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is essential listening for small business owners, sales leaders, and marketing professionals striving for growth in a competitive marketplace. Chris Spanier shares invaluable insights on making the most of limited budgets, the critical importance of sales and marketing collaboration, and strategic approaches to achieving company-wide success. Through real-life examples and practical advice, Chris, Kevin, and Sean illuminate a path forward for businesses looking to cultivate a powerful synergy between sales and marketing. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from a marketing expert dedicated to helping companies seize the day and achieve their goals.

Ready to transform your sales and marketing strategy? Download this episode now for expert guidance on driving profitability and growth in your business.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – From Stories to Sales: Leveraging Narrative Power with Jeff Clair – E75

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – From Stories to Sales: Leveraging Narrative Power with Jeff Clair – E75

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Join hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey on “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” for a captivating conversation with special guest Jeff Clair, a fractional VP of sales and the brain behind ClairVoyant Consulting LLC. In this episode, Jeff shares his invaluable insights on the power of storytelling in sales, offering practical tips for salespeople to engage and connect with their prospects effectively. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or new to the field, this discussion is packed with advice to elevate your sales approach through compelling storytelling.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Art of Storytelling in Sales: Jeff emphasizes the importance of storytelling as a memorable and impactful way to communicate with prospects.
  2. Remembering and Crafting Stories: Insights into how salespeople can remember and craft stories that resonate with their audience, making the prospect the story’s hero.
  3. The Role of Salespeople as Guides: Drawing parallels from popular movies, Jeff illustrates how salespeople should position themselves as guides in their storytelling, akin to characters like Yoda in “Star Wars.”
  4. Practicing Storytelling: The significance of practicing storytelling within sales teams, including role-playing exercises to refine this skill.
  5. Connecting Stories to the Buyer’s Journey: Jeff connects the dots on how storytelling fits into the buyer’s journey, providing a framework for new and seasoned sales professionals to enhance their sales strategies.
  6. Role-Playing and Feedback: An exploration of effective training techniques, including role-playing, to help salespeople become more engaging and confident storytellers.

Key Quotes

Jeff Clair:

“People tend not to remember the facts, but they remember stories…great storytellers infuse different senses, which is really great.”

Kevin Lawson:

“Practice makes easy. Not practice makes perfect…there’s always room for improvement.”

Sean O’Shaughnessey:

“Practice allows you to figure out how to do it better…those people in small organizations tend not to practice enough.”

Additional Resources

  • The Story Brand by Donald Miller: Recommended reading for salespeople and marketing professionals to master the art of storytelling in business.

Summary

This insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” dives deep into the transformative role of storytelling in the sales process. With his rich experience in sales leadership, Jeff Clair shares why stories captivate, how to craft them effectively, and the importance of salespeople seeing themselves as guides for their prospects. Through role-playing and practice, Jeff underscores the significance of confidence and personalization in storytelling, ensuring that each story resonates deeply with the intended audience. This discussion is a must-listen for anyone looking to harness the power of storytelling to not just sell but to connect and inspire action.

Elevate your sales game with the art of storytelling. Download this episode now and transform how you engage with your prospects.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Cultivating Multi-Threaded Relationships in Sales – E72

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Cultivating Multi-Threaded Relationships in Sales – E72

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Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” with hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey. In this episode, we delve into the nuances of building a robust sales pipeline, focusing on creating a team of buyers rather than sellers. This discussion is crucial for sales leaders, managers, and salespeople across various industries, whether involved in enterprise sales, repetitive sales, consumable sales, or professional services.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Building Multi-Threaded Relationships: The importance of establishing connections with multiple decision-makers and influencers in the client’s organization.
  2. Strategies for New Salespeople: Tactics for entering new territories and identifying potential clients.
  3. The Role of Sales Leaders: How sales managers can support their team in expanding their client base and building a more robust sales pipeline.
  4. Understanding the Buying Committee: Navigating through the dynamics of group decision-making in sales.
  5. Effective Pipeline Management: Strategies for maintaining and enriching the sales pipeline throughout the year.
  6. The Power of Referrals and Trust: Leveraging trust and referrals to enhance sales effectiveness.

Key Quotes

  • Kevin: “It’s not about how complex our questions need to be to get crazy insightful answers… it’s really about doing the simple things well.”
  • Sean: “Don’t just focus on the VP or director… remember that every influencer in the organization will sway that top person.”

Additional Resources

  • RACI – https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/raci-chart/
  • MEDDPICCC sales methodology for identifying key decision-makers and influencers – http://newsales.expert/2023/10/unlocking-sales-potential-with-meddpiccc-a-comprehensive-guide/
  • The concept of the Power Matrix in sales – https://www.thetrapper.com/2021/11/18/welcome-to-the-power-matrix/

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide valuable insights into building a successful sales pipeline, emphasizing the importance of multi-threaded relationships and understanding the dynamics of the buying committee. They offer practical strategies for new and experienced sales professionals and guidance for sales leaders on supporting their teams. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their sales process and achieve better results in their sales endeavors. Join us next week for more on building quality relationships and effective pipeline management in sales.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – The Trusted Advisor: Excelling in Consumable Product Sales – E70

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – The Trusted Advisor: Excelling in Consumable Product Sales – E70

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Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts, Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey, delve into the often-overlooked realm of consumable sales. In this episode, they explore strategies for making that initial sale and ensuring repeat business in a competitive market. Whether you’re selling paper, steel, lubricants, or any consumable product, this episode is packed with valuable insights for sales professionals at all levels.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Importance of Being a Trusted Advisor: Understanding the significance of building solid customer advisory relationships in consumable sales.
  2. Selling Beyond the Product: How to add value and differentiate yourself when selling widely available products that are similar across competitors.
  3. Strategies for New Territory Development: Tips for sales leaders and salespeople on effectively breaking into and growing new sales territories.
  4. Crafting a Unique Selling Proposition (USP): The necessity of developing a compelling USP, even for distributors of similar products.
  5. Role of Sales Managers and CEOs: The importance of leadership in providing tools and processes to support the sales team in delivering value.
  6. Maintaining Customer Satisfaction: Strategies for keeping customers engaged and ensuring repeat business in a competitive environment.

Key Quotes

  • Sean: “The value you bring is you. The value you bring is your ability to understand the prospect, your ability to guide the prospect.”
  • Kevin: “Figure out for yourself what makes the most value for your customers. When they say, ‘thank you,’ what do they say thank you for?”

Additional Resources

  • Book: “Challenger Sale” – Recommended for understanding the concept of challenging and driving customer business – https://a.co/d/cIUwphe.
  • Book: “Eliminate Your Competition” by Sean O’Shaughnessey https://a.co/d/4qCVNEP.

Summary

In this episode, Kevin and Sean provide a deep dive into the world of consumable sales, emphasizing the importance of being more than just a salesperson – being a trusted advisor. They discuss the necessity of understanding your product and your customer, crafting a unique selling proposition, and the critical role of sales managers and CEOs in empowering their teams. Whether you’re a seasoned sales professional or just starting, this episode offers practical advice and strategies to excel in the competitive market of consumable sales. Tune in to “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” for these and more invaluable sales insights.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Your Sales Game: Key Strategies for Pipeline Development – E66

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Your Sales Game: Key Strategies for Pipeline Development – E66

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Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey dive deep into the crucial topic of building a new pipeline for business growth. In this episode, Kevin shares his expertise on net new pipeline growth, offering valuable strategies for sales leaders and teams to enhance their sales processes and achieve success.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Net New Pipeline Growth: Kevin emphasizes the importance of building a net new pipeline, focusing on strategic and tactical levels to drive sales success.
  2. Activities That Matter: The discussion highlights the significance of consistent, purposeful activities that contribute to sales success, moving beyond quotas to meaningful engagement.
  3. Sales and Marketing Synergy: Kevin stresses the need for sales and marketing to work harmoniously, focusing on acquiring and retaining customers through collaborative efforts.
  4. Role of Sales Leaders: The episode delves into the responsibilities of sales leaders in ensuring their teams focus on the right activities and engage with the right prospects.
  5. Importance of Sales Process and CRM: Kevin discusses how a well-structured sales process and effective CRM usage are crucial for managing and converting leads effectively.
  6. Personal and Professional Brand Building: The conversation touches upon the importance of salespeople growing their network and brand to attract the ideal client profiles.

Key Quotes

  • Kevin: “Activities do matter… It’s about doing the things consistently over time that we know return success.”
  • Kevin: “Sales and marketing should be complimentary, not adversarial… Our whole goal is to acquire and retain customers.”
  • Kevin: “As salespeople, we have a responsibility to be intentional… about creating enough relevant content via activity to get in front of the right people.”

Additional Resources

  • Sales methodologies like MEDDPICCC, SOAR, and BANT.

Summary

In this episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” Kevin Lawson discusses the critical aspect of building a new pipeline for business growth. He provides a comprehensive overview of the strategies and activities necessary for sales success, emphasizing the synergy between sales and marketing, the role of sales leaders, and the importance of a well-structured sales process. This episode is a treasure trove of insights for sales professionals looking to enhance their approach to sales and achieve their goals in the coming year. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from the experts and elevate your sales game.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Sales Success: Insights from Membrain’s Chief Revenue Officer Paul Fuller – E65

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Elevating Sales Success: Insights from Membrain’s Chief Revenue Officer Paul Fuller – E65

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Welcome to another insightful episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” where hosts Kevin Lawson and Sean O’Shaughnessey engage in a compelling conversation with Paul Fuller, the Chief Revenue Officer of Membrain. In this episode, they delve into the challenges and strategies of leading a sales team, especially as we approach the new year with fresh goals and targets.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. The Role of a Chief Revenue Officer: Paul Fuller shares his experiences and responsibilities in driving sales and revenue growth.
  2. Motivating Sales Teams for the New Year: Strategies to inspire and prepare sales teams for achieving new goals as the fiscal year resets.
  3. The Importance of Sales Methodology and CRM Tools: Discussion on how effective sales methodologies and CRM tools can enhance sales performance.
  4. Setting Realistic Sales Goals: Balancing company needs with individual salesperson goals for optimal performance.
  5. The Art and Science of Sales: Exploring the blend of methodical processes and creative problem-solving in sales.

Key Quotes

  • Paul Fuller: “Our why is to elevate the sales profession. It’s about empowering ourselves, our partners, and the companies we work with.”
  • Kevin Lawson: “Good management is always good management, whether you’re doing it with high technology influence or low technology influence.”
  • Sean O’Shaughnessey: “How do you find that importance in what you sell and in your life, especially when it’s not as inherently exciting as some products?”

Additional Resources

Summary Paragraph

This episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales” is a must-listen for sales professionals seeking to start the new year on a strong note. With Paul Fuller’s insights on effective sales leadership, the importance of CRM tools, and the art of sales, listeners are equipped with valuable strategies to elevate their sales game. Whether you’re a seasoned sales leader or new to the field, this episode offers practical advice and motivation to achieve your sales goals in the upcoming year.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies – E24

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals with Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies – E24

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Kevin and Sean have a special guest for this episode! Kelly Crandall of Sales Xceleration and Next Level Strategies. 

Kelly is a sales expert who works as an advisor to help mid to small-size businesses build a path to more sales. The topic of the conversation is “The Sales Skills Required to Communicate Your Value Proposition to Win More Deals.” Kelly discusses the importance of value proposition and its broader concept, focusing on why buyers should buy from a company. She stresses the importance of customizing the value proposition to each client and the need to consider customer feedback, industry trends, and client resonance.

According to Kelly, a strong value proposition can help businesses gain customer loyalty, win more sales, and charge premium fees. However, she highlights that companies need to tailor the concept of the value proposition to each client, which requires a customized approach. The conversation also highlights that teaching salespeople how to articulate their value proposition compellingly and tangibly is critical. Therefore, businesses must shift their thought processes and create value propositions based on customer feedback, needs, and industry trends.

Kelly has a background in sales, sales leadership, and entrepreneurship, and her experience indicates that any company can learn to create a strong value proposition. However, it requires a tailored approach that considers each client’s needs and requirements. The conversation provides valuable insights for businesses and salespeople on the importance of customizing the value proposition and the benefits of having a solid value proposition.

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Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Sales Meetings Are for Educational Purposes – E23

Two Tall Guys Talking Sales – Sales Meetings Are for Educational Purposes – E23

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In this episode of “Two Tall Guys Talking Sales,” Sean and Kevin provide insights on conducting effective sales meetings focusing on education and training.

They suggest assigning individual salespeople to research topics or chapters of a book to teach the team, ensuring everyone becomes an authority on the topic. The hosts stress the importance of repetition and testing knowledge by applying it to specific accounts or situations. They also highlight the need for clear goals and contribute directly to revenue growth in every meeting.

The hosts further discuss the importance of continuous education in sales, suggesting attending conferences, reading books and articles, and practicing role play. They emphasize the value of asking questions to peers and customers to gain insights into their needs and preferences. The hosts recommend a three-column format when approaching prospects or customers and conclude by advising sales leaders to sell their new ideas to their team members instead of telling them what to do.

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